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Really extremely cramped engine bay lengthwise. yeah, had currently figured that out ... it was a tongue in cheek post, that I really did not make clear ... my poor In respond to spitfirebill: I included that factor since when I needed to discover a replacement 4.9 for my F150, I had to go with every one in every junkyard in South Jersey to find one that had not been sludged up really severely.
Bernie: Which is a better van, while we're going to talk regarding a few problems of these vans, but I I'm clearly not going to come out and state one is far better than the other. Bernie: Well, they're basically the same vehicle.
Mark: So, well, let's start with engines after that. Allow's speak about engine and in fact just to define that the design years, we're going to start from 2000 and up, you recognize, I imply, these vans have actually been around for a long time.
And, you understand, for a version of a Chevy van has been around considering that, you recognize, around that time as well. We're not going to get back right into, right into the earlier stuff. Given that 2000, I imply, Ford's, you can obtain these with V6 engines or V8s. V8s are much a lot more prominent and I would not really suggest a V6 engine.
There's a great deal of concerns with these engines. In the earlier 2000 trigger plugs with strike to these engines, because they really did not have adequate threading in the stimulate plug, which caused problems.
If you're buying anything from probably 08 and more recent, you're not going to have that kind of spark plug concerns. Various other areas though, with the Fords that we see, consumption manifolds will certainly leak, they'll create coolant leaks. It's a plastic manifold normally you need to replace the entire thing.
And there's some issues, the Ford engine I need to claim in their favour, due to the fact that I'm discussing troubles, it's a much more advanced engine. Expenses camera, so you're getting more power and performance out of the engine than you would on a Chevy, which is an easier design with push rods.
They're simply actually respectable, sturdy, solid engines. You know, being a van, of course, you recognize, doing any service on them is a lot more challenging since you've reached get rid of that cover and get involved in maintenance in odd means. Things like stimulate plugs last a terrible long time, so they don't need to be changed really commonly.
Mark: Can you acquire these vans with diesel engines? The Fords have had diesels in them for a long time, like means back prior to the 2000 design year.
So, you recognize, that's still available. I would certainly not suggest a diesel unless you're carrying remarkably heavy loads. Diesels require to be worked. That's truly the bottom line with a diesel. So if you're a say, I don't know, I'm just going to claim a plumbing technician and you've obtained like a great deal of heavyweight inside your van and you're hauling a trailer behind it, that would be an actually good use having a diesel powered van.
In all fairness, it feels like the diesels are, they seem to have less problems in vans than they carry out in the vehicles. Most likely due to the fact that they aren't worked so hard, however when things take place, they're actually pricey to deal with. We've obtained a lot of videos and details concerning diesels, especially the Fords.
You actually need to think twice concerning obtaining a diesel in a van. And I will state, Chevy is rather a lot restricted to V8 engines, yet Ford has a V 10 engine as well, which is a monstrous gas guzzling engine.
Yet if you're, and once again, we're simply speaking concerning type of a directly, regular cargo van below. The diesel definitely isn't the ideal option. Look at your function, your usage, just how much weight you're transporting which'll assist you decide. Mark: What about the transmission and the rest of the drive train? Bernie: They're virtually equivalent.
Something that we have not spoken regarding here is what kind of van. These vans are, and it depends upon what design, they're available ever from half lot to one ton chassis and in fact some of the exploded view vans are actually a lot more sturdy, like, you understand, 450s and 550s for claim the Fords.
Generally the drive trains, you recognize, I find them to be pretty much equal. Mark: So allow's speak about steering and suspension. Just how do they contrast? Bernie: You know, I'm going to provide the side to Ford on this. And the factor for Ford is that it's a little simpler.
There's much less steering affiliation included in a Chevy. Do Chevy's, however it seems, and the Chevy's probably last a little longer than the Fords, but the, you know, the guiding link is much less complex, so there's much less components and much less items to wear out.
The experience in a Ford is possibly a little bit more truck like but I do not recognize if you 'd actually ever really noticed a difference between the 2. It seems like their parts are a little harder on the Ford than the Chevy.
For some factor, they appear to last for one brake task. And afterwards a whole lot of times we take the brakes off and state, Oh, the dirt boots torn, therefore the caliper requires to be replaced. So I think on a Ford and you can anticipate to spend a little more cash on brakes and you can on a Chevy.
And I can, I'm going to digress back prior to the 2000 design years, there were some Chevy vans that had actually negative doors. I indicate, the gliding doors were crap, you know, actually severely built. Actually, I would state that if you are even considering something older, it appears like Chevy and GMC vans actually and their trucks as a whole truly took a jump ahead in quality around the 2000 design year, since there was a great deal of stuff where the brakes for instance would certainly not last extremely long in any way.
But if we're taking a look at the 2000 more recent, I mean, I 'd say they're both probably practically equivalent in quality, fit and finish, you know, a few of the guest vans, naturally we'll have better consultations than the cargo vans. But I can not say that of them stands out to me a little even more than the other.
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